Hi, I am trying to figure out which game to buy to recreate the European Theater of Operations during World War II. I want something that is not whoppingly complex and I don't want something that takes much more than 10 hours to play. I also want it to simply be a fun game with lots of interesting decisions to be made. I've come down to 3 choices 1. Axis and Allies Europe. This seems to be a real simple game that can be played quickly. My hesitation is that it may be too simple. I really want something that does a decent job of at least making you feel like the game is a semi-historical simulation. Is this game so simple that it feel more like playing with toys than recreating WWII? 2. Barbarossa to Berlin. I really like PoG so this has strong appeal. The mix of cards and chits makes for a fun game but also a decent simulation. The problem appears to be that the cards play make gameplay conform to history and thus removes some fun but ahistorical options. Also I really wanted a game that didn't skip the beginning of the war (which A&AE also does I believe) 3. Europe Engulfed. I like the Columbia Block games fairly well so this one has draw. It covers the whole war which is good. However I don't know much more about it. One complaint I have heard is that there aren't that many interesting decision so game play is a bit bland. 4. Totaler Krieg. I know I said I had 3 choices but wanted to include this one because it offers a number of things I like. It does the whole war and has a really nice planning/diplomacy component with the card play. The problem is that it is too complicated and takes too long to play. I actually own Krieg and it is still fairly complex and definitely too long. It would be worth considering if they made Totaler Krieg Lite. So, any words of wisdom about any of these games? Thanks, Mark