Why by 5.11 when you can buy better made , better quality and cheaper tactical clothing from China, Mexico, Egypt, Malta, Britain. I compared the 511 tac vest with a snowbbee and a regatta vest and both were better finished in better fabrics, though they did not have purpose designed holtser pockets. Basically 511 is kit for Gucci warriors, In the US there are two other companies who make similar stuff much better than 911 and still cheaper, cant remember the companies but Cabelas used to stock it,