you dont like 501 tight or i like them to keep me guessin 2 sizes bigger than should be Depends on the area you live in. Where Robert and I live, but 200 miles apart..Wrangler cowboy cut slim fits are sorta a common uniform of the working class.  And they last well. 501s are what the kids wear..yuppie kids. Gunner Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont  kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under play nice rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you for torturing the cat.  Gunner